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Guitarists who aren't taken seriously but deserve to be.

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by 3-Chord-Genius, Sep 29, 2017.

  1. telemnemonics

    telemnemonics Doctor of Teleocity

    Mar 2, 2010
    I could agree with that except in almost 40 years of playing I've met exactly one player who had awesome chops but hid it from everyone.
    I suppose there may be others though...

  2. SoulstormTX

    SoulstormTX Tele-Meister

    Jul 14, 2017
    San Antonio, Tx
    Per Nilsson of Kaipa (prog) and Scar Symmetry (metal) fame. Great technique, note selection, phrasing, etc....


  3. SoulstormTX

    SoulstormTX Tele-Meister

    Jul 14, 2017
    San Antonio, Tx
    He's been toying with the idea of a solo album so hopefully that'll put him on the map. Better than most of the known Shred heroes because of sheer musicality and creativity but I bet many of you haven't heard his name. Very unique player.

  4. Televised

    Televised Friend of Leo's

    Apr 26, 2009
    Portland, OR
    Not so much that they weren't taken seriously but not recognized for how good they were:

    +1 on Bonnie Raite - turned into quite the slide guitarist to go along with everything else she is incredible at.

    Harvey Mandel - with John Mayall, Canned Heat, and solo career. Unique and great playing style but didn't get the recognition I feel he deserved.
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  5. Lone Picker

    Lone Picker Tele-Meister

    Jun 25, 2011
    Eastern PA

  6. Ekko

    Ekko Tele-Meister

    Jul 31, 2017
    I actually came here to say Bowie isn’t nearly respected enough as a guitar player.

    Sure he is respected as a multi-instrumentalist (something like 17?!), a singer, a composer, a lyricist, a frontman, a showman, etc etc. BUT not nearly respected enough as a guitarist!

    I think this comes from the fact that often times he played the rhythm guitarist “just playing chords” role on an acoustic, while being overshadowed by legendary guitarist like Mick Ronson, Earl Slick, Gerry Leonard, Adrian Belew, Robert Fripp, Carlos Alomar, Reeves Gabriel, and even SRV & Niles Rodgers on the Let’s Dance album.

    I’d argue he wasn’t “just playing chords”, but maybe that argument would dive into composition as opposed to actual playing. So more to the point: all the guitar work on Bowie’s farewell album to Glam, Diamond Dogs, was done by Bowie. Or take songs like Lazarus from Blackstar where all the guitar work was Bowie as well. I love Bowie’s raw, pseudo-sloppy, almost punk-y approach to guitar and think it isn’t given nearly the credit it’s due.

    Edit: as for Bowie “pretending” to play SRV’s parts, I think that was only in the Let’s Dance music video (after SRV had already left the band) and the he never actually tried to take credit. It was likely the video director just telling him to play the solo for the vid.
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  7. TwangyWhammy

    TwangyWhammy Friend of Leo's

    Jan 10, 2014
    Under the DownUnder
    The day he stops doing this... I'd love to take our love/hate relationship to the next level...

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  8. dlew919

    dlew919 Poster Extraordinaire

    Aug 6, 2012
    I’ve got an interview with Bowie’s producer - tony Visconti and he says that as tragic as the death of Marc bolan was, he likely didn’t have much more in him creatively because he only knew about eight guitar chords. Bowie had hundreds of chords which suggested he’d have a long career
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  9. DonM

    DonM Tele-Afflicted Ad Free Member

    Apr 21, 2016
    Hey, the riff for Rebel Rebel alone seals the deal for me.
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  10. Ekko

    Ekko Tele-Meister

    Jul 31, 2017
    Looking at what Bolan did with 8 chords, I’d bet he could have done a lot more. Also Bolan’s lead work is underrated in my opinion as well. What he did on the song Monolith with a very subdue and subtle wah is the whole reason my Morley is almost exclusively used over my CryBaby (Granted Bolan didn’t use a Morley, but my PWA gets similar tones, where as my CryBaby is better if I want to pretend I’m Kirk Hammett).

    Can I get a link to the interview? Would adore reading about Bowie and Bolan from Tony’s view.

  11. Ekko

    Ekko Tele-Meister

    Jul 31, 2017
    I’m right there with you. Plus, if it weren’t sealed, they beautifully “sloppy” work on Diamond Dog’s title track always gets me pumped!
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  12. dlew919

    dlew919 Poster Extraordinaire

    Aug 6, 2012
    It is in a book I no longer can find called 'The Record Producers' by John Tobler and Stuart Grundy from about 1981. It features interviews with George Martin, Tony Visconti, Roy Thomas Baker, Bill Symzcyc,Mickie Most, Nicky Chinn and Mike Chapman, Glyn Johns, Tom Dowd and an article on Phil Spector.(I must have read it a hundred and twenty times). It was based on a radio show on the BBC, so you might get a recording of it somewhere on the web.

    There is a companion volume called the guitar greats, with interviews with B B King, SCotty Moore, James burton, Hank Marvin, Clapton, Beck, Page, Townshend, Ry Cooder, Ritchie Blackmore, Steve Miller, Carlos Santana, Joe Walsh and Brian May. Again, about 1981 (pre Van Halen...). I have it on Kindle. IT is also tremendous.
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  13. Ghostlyone

    Ghostlyone TDPRI Member

    Mar 7, 2016
    New Hampshire
    Agreed. Not a Vai or Satch, but definitely melodic.

  14. Duotone

    Duotone TDPRI Member

    Mar 17, 2015
    Not taken seriously? If you are from Germany, it’s definitely the comedian Helge Schneider:

    (need to stop myself from posting more and more...)
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  15. 3-Chord-Genius

    3-Chord-Genius Friend of Leo's

    Apr 3, 2015
    Winchester, VA
    I think my nominee kind of explains it. C.C. DeVille. Serious musicians think he's a joke, hard rock fans think he and the band was a joke... but he is a seriously good guitarist who played exactly what the songs required. The hairspray, lipstick and makeup sort of overshadowed his abilities as a musician.

  16. smartsoul72

    smartsoul72 Tele-Meister

    Nov 24, 2017
    I nominate Mike Nesmith.
    My reasoning is that a lot of people knock the Monkees for not being a real band.
    Mike is actually an accomplished & interesting guitarist. Check out his solo album "And the Hits Just Keep on Comin'". It's just he on guitar accompanied by pedal steel guitarist Red Rhodes.
    And he produced & played with Bert Jansch on the "LA Turnaround" record. Bert himself was impressed with Mike's playing.
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  17. Harry

    Harry Tele-Meister

    Jan 23, 2006
    George Thorogood. It's unlikely anyone will mistake him for a world-class shredder. Although I think he's better than he admits to be. But he seems closer to the spirit of early blues, country and rock than a room full of Stevie Ray clones.
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  18. GuitarRandy

    GuitarRandy TDPRI Member

    Dec 24, 2012
    Parker, Colorado
    I know it was a different generation than I grew up in but I was amazed at how many of my musical peers knew what a Les Paul was but had no idea WHO Les Paul was. He and Mary were both amazing players that should have had a lot more recognition beyond the 50's/60's.


  19. Mickey slick

    Mickey slick TDPRI Member

    Jan 11, 2017
    Jerry Reed
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