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Music Store Deception

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by kelnet, Mar 5, 2018.

  1. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    I saw your post from a couple days ago. I'm glad I'm not in a position to be buying anything from that place... If he's willing to lie about that, what else has be tried to pull over on his customers?
     
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  2. Tonetele

    Tonetele Friend of Leo's

    Jun 2, 2009
    South Australia
    Mr. Lumbergh is correct.
    He has resided Downunder and knows you " have to know your chops" just to work in a music store- usually the sales people are working musicians earning wages between gigs.
    The good ones have really talented luthiers and teachers.
    I've been involved with three over 50 years and seen a lot of
    others go out of business through BS and pricing.
     
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  3. eclecticsynergy

    eclecticsynergy Tele-Meister

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    For the oldtimers: the real wall of sound...

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  4. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    No Longer Here
    I agree with those who don't see a deception. If the signatures are legit, what's the issue? I mean, it's not like they're claiming to be selling SRV's "Number 1." They're selling cheap guitars with signed pickguards. As far as I can see from the OP, they're not claiming the signers ever played the guitars or even held them in their hands. They're being represented and sold as "signed guitars."

    Whether or not there's a useful distinction between a "signed guitar" and a "signed pickguard" is probably of very little interest to the buyer who would be interested in items like this. They probably just want a wall hanger signed by their hero, anyway. So, in a way, these aren't even being sold as guitars; they're being sold as art or decoration, depending on your point of view.

    If the shop were claiming that Signe Andersen used the guitar with Jefferson Airplane and used it to record "Tobacco Road," then there'd be a MAJOR problem. But, they're not, so... Where's the issue?

    I'm with the store on this one. Just business, as they say.
     
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  5. Deaf Eddie

    Deaf Eddie Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

    Mar 17, 2003
    Sunny San Diego, CA

  6. David Barnett

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  7. P Thought

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    I have a scruffy old softball autographed by Joe Namath. First $35,000 takes it. Please, folks, no pushing and shoving.
     

  8. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    The issue isn’t the guards so much as the Fender logos on the Squiers.
     

  9. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Is it the one he used to win the US Open?
     

  10. Ira7

    Ira7 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Jan 8, 2008
    Coral Springs, FL
    I'm the same thinking on this.

    Even if it was an autographed guitar, and the guy even actually played it, there are just a handful of players where it would increase its value significantly, most of them dead.

    And even those dead guys' autographs aren't worth much.

    I just don't see the scam, because you have to be pretty stupid to pay that money even if it was real.
     

  11. Ira7

    Ira7 Poster Extraordinaire

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    No:

    He used it when he competed in curling at the Calgary Olympics.
     
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  12. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    No Longer Here
    The OP doesn’t say that. But, it does say that COAs are provided specifying that the pickguard was signed, not the guitar. So, where’s the deception?
     

  13. Uncle Bob

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    Mar 5, 2017
    West Virginia
    COAs are worth the price of the paper they're printed on.

    My sister bought a signed Nirvana poster for my daughter. Not long ago I decided to figure out what it might be worth, and found out the copyright date on the poster is a year or more after Kurt's suicide. It had a COA.
     

  14. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    No Longer Here
    Read my whole sentence, please. The COA specifies the guard, not the guitar. That was my point.
     

  15. t guitar floyd

    t guitar floyd Tele-Holic

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    And here I thought he was a boxer! o_O
     
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  16. Uncle Bob

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    .. and my point was, that doesn't mean anything either. The same person that signed the guitar could have printed up the COA and signed that as the authenticator. The whole shooting match could be bogus, and odds are, it is.
     

  17. soulgeezer

    soulgeezer Poster Extraordinaire

    Nov 5, 2006
    No Longer Here
    This thread is about music store deception. If the owner of the store got ripped off, thats on him. But, he’s not misrepresenting the items, as far as we know.
     

  18. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    His previous thread about the place did. I thought I remembered him referencing it in the OP.
     

  19. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Apparently he’s an Olympic curler. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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  20. HoodieMcFoodie

    HoodieMcFoodie Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    No. no. no, you guys got it all wrong. That ball is part of the set he used to defeat Bobby Fischer back in '68.
     
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