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To bigsby or not to bigsby

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Aaron1061, Mar 12, 2018.

  1. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    What would you do?

    With the bigsby, the tuning is solid but not perfect. Not sure how to improve it. My bigsbied Reverend is absolutely flawless.

    If no bigsby, it will be holy. I'd chalk it up to relic.


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  2. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Check out the "Bigsfix" and see if that doesn't help. I have a Gretsch 5622T with a tension-bar Bigs on it, and the extreme angle it puts on the bridge is part of the issue.
     

  3. absurdocaster

    absurdocaster Tele-Meister

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    Yes but you do have another one so perhaps?

    Locking tuners and moving up a gage to 11’s or 12’s helped mine be rock solid.
     

  4. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    It has 11's and the tuners are vintage slotted. Pretty much locking!
     

  5. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    I'd have to shim it pretty good because the angle is already shallow. More shallow than the reverend that stays perfectly in tune.
     

  6. Hiker

    Hiker Poster Extraordinaire

    Jul 20, 2008
    Alabama
    My guess is less than one out a hundred Teles have one. I can't see myself living in the 1%. ;)
     
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  7. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    Good point but also could go the other way if I just wanted to be different.
     

  8. Mr. Lumbergh

    Mr. Lumbergh Poster Extraordinaire

    Jun 13, 2013
    Initech, Inc.
    Ah so you have the opposite issue.
    It's hard to make a Bigs work on a flattop; they work best on semis and hollows it seems.
     

  9. tfarny

    tfarny Tele-Afflicted

    Sep 4, 2008
    Hudson Valley, NY
    Keep it. That guitar requires a Bigsby. Find a way. Enlarge the nut slots, lube the bridge, shim it.
     
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  10. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Poster Extraordinaire Silver Supporter

    Apr 2, 2014
    Phoenix, AZ
    I run 10s on mine, it’s my #1 Tele. I can dive and bottom out the handle to the body all I want and still come back and finish a song, and it’s sensitive enough to add vibrato with my pinky. I can also rotate the arm 360 degrees and use my forearm to do weird MBV stuff. Does standard Bigsby things without a hitch. No joke. Comes with a hefty price tag, though. OCDs led me hear and I’ll never use anything else on a Tele, besides the B16. Don’t get me wrong, I hear the crowd, they’ll say you don’t need all this and I agree, lots of ways to go about it. Difference is I went there to get here, and it works, no loss of Tele sustain or tone.

    -Drilled though string bar, DIY
    -Removed the felt, B5 body screwed tight on the wood
    -Callaham solid steel tension bar
    -Reverend Soft Spring
    -Mastery 4.1
    -Mastery string tree
    -cardstock shim on the neck side to lower the saddles (keep it shallow)
    -“Chet” arm bracket
    -tighten the handle for NO slack
    -Tri-lube on all moving parts

    I think if you just get this, you’ll be sticking with a Bigsby, with proper nut slotting of course.

    https://masterybridge.com/product/m7-1/

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    Mine:

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    Did I mention to keep it shallow? :)
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  11. AngelDeville

    AngelDeville Tele-Afflicted

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    She needs the bigsby.

    Keep to 2-3 windings on the wound strings and 3-4 on the unwound.

    Nut cut to two sizes above your string guauge.

    Match the rearward edge of the nut cut to the string angle.

    Lube the nut and saddles with earwax. (Optional)
     

  12. horseman308

    horseman308 Tele-Meister

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    Definitely keep the B5. I love mine. It's taken a while to get used to it, but I wouldn't go back now.
     

  13. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    I clean my ears a lot. Can I have some of yours?
     
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  14. Vespa_One

    Vespa_One Tele-Holic

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    With Bigsby. You'll get the tuning straightened out
     
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  15. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    That was actually really encouraging. Thank you
     
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  16. AngelDeville

    AngelDeville Tele-Afflicted

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    Sloppy seeping envelope on its way...
     

  17. unixfish

    unixfish Poster Extraordinaire

    Apr 20, 2013
    Northeast Ohio, USA
    I just spent some time disabling Bixby from my wife's phone. When I saw the thread title. I was like "Hells yes remove it!" Then I looked a bit closer, and now I understand the post.

    My opinion: @BorderRadio has a good solution.
     
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  18. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    thanks for the help! the issue with getting new hardware would be to also age it myself or send it MJT so it matches the rest of the guitar and hardware...

    i may just shim it and lower the saddles and see how that turns out. ive already tried lubing it all up with Graphite infused vaseline.
     
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  19. Aaron1061

    Aaron1061 Tele-Meister

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    Thanks you guys! Put it back on, lubed it all up, lowered the saddles, and it's a champ now! Gotta say I feel at home when there's a bigsby at the ready.

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